Oct. 11, 2024
Hurricanes, Politics, and Climate Change: Navigating the Stormy Waters
Andrew Lewin discusses the intersection of politics and climate change, particularly in the context of recent hurricanes, Milton and Helene, that impacted Florida and surrounding areas. Andrew expresses frustration over the political responses to...
Andrew Lewin discusses the intersection of politics and climate change, particularly in the context of recent hurricanes, Milton and Helene, that impacted Florida and surrounding areas.
Andrew expresses frustration over the political responses to these natural disasters, highlighting how misinformation and conspiracy theories undermine genuine efforts to address climate change. He critiques the notion that the government is manipulating weather patterns to influence elections, arguing that such beliefs distract from the real issues, including the increasing intensity of hurricanes due to climate change.
The episode emphasizes the need for effective policies and collaboration among political leaders to improve disaster response and relief efforts. Lewin calls for voters to support candidates who prioritize climate action and work towards solutions rather than perpetuating divisive narratives. He stresses the importance of accountability in politics, urging listeners to engage in the democratic process and advocate for responsible governance that addresses the realities of climate change.
Overall, the episode serves as a rallying cry for collective action against climate change, urging individuals to be informed voters and to demand better from their leaders in the face of environmental challenges.
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Transcript
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It is devastating to watch people go through this. It's scary, but
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You're implying that the government made
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a hurricane stronger to hurt its own
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country, the United States of America? What would
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When, if you, like there's been people out there, if
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they have an Alexa, I don't know if you've heard that, and they've asked, what
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caused Milton? You can go on there now, it's
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already predicted the number of deaths and the amount of, it's already predicted it.
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On a Google, it won't do that. If you ask it about Haleen,
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it'll tell you the government actively used seed clouding.
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Why would a country want to have a hurricane be strong and hit its
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because they want to control certain places. And
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if you're looking at where the hurricane's going, it's a lot
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Global warming, that's the global warming you have to worry about. Not that
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the ocean's gonna rise in 400 years an eighth of an inch, and
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you'll have more seafront property, right, if that happens. I said, is
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that good or bad? I said, isn't that a good thing? If
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I have a little property on the ocean, I have a little bit more property. I have
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And building of policies that will help the
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people of the U.S. who is going through climate change
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consequences. We have a chance as a people that are
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part of democratic societies to vote in people who will do
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something about climate change, who vote in people who are not going to believe in
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these crazy crazy schemes or conspiracy
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theories who want to criticize government policies to
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make them better to help the people later. Not just to get into
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power, not just to take down a government, but to say let's work
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together on this and let's help the American people. I have more
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respect for somebody who's not in power as part of a party
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that says let's work together to make relief efforts better after
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these disasters because we're going to see more more of them than somebody to come up with some
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crazy conspiracy theory and pass it out and make sure that
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misinformation is out there to like say, hey, you know what? Who
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cares? I want to be in power. You suck. You're cloud seeding. You're
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making the Republicans not vote because of this storm. You're
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controlling the weather. You're controlling the weather. This is
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like a scene out of like a Mike Myers movie.
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It's like Dr. Evil. Hey,
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everybody. Welcome back to another exciting episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast,
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the podcast where you find out what's happening with the ocean, how you can speak up
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for the ocean, what you can do to live for a better ocean by taking
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action. On today's episode, we're going to be talking about Hurricane Milton.
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We're also going to be talking about Hurricane Helene. These
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are both hurricanes that have passed through over the past couple of
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weeks through the southern Florida, middle Florida,
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I guess, Gulf States, like the western coast of Florida, and
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have produce a lot of damage right and with
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Milton as it just passed by last night
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as of recording this we were very fortunate that
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there wasn't the damage that happened well that
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we first initially thought initially like a couple days ago even a day ago
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it went from a category three to a category five quite
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rapidly and then before it hit the Tampa
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region, which was bracing and evacuating, it
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went down to a Category 3. It passed over the entire
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state of Florida and then
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went to the other side. By the time it reached the other side, it was a
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Category 1. So there was some flooding in areas, but the damage
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wasn't as bad as it was predicted
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to be, which is a great thing. We got away With
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a lot, let's be honest, you know, as a community, as
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a continent, you know, the US state of Florida,
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they got away with a lot. And
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although unfortunately, people did pass away,
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the last time I heard it was about nine that they're saying
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passed away. The damage and the
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amount of lives that were lost was
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minimized by the evacuation, by the lessened
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storm. But Hurricane 3, I've been through a hurricane
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that was a Category 3. That is scary. It
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is extremely scary to live through. I remember
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I went through Hurricane Juan in Halifax when
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I was living there with my now wife. We were
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okay because there weren't a lot of big trees where it was, but in downtown
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Halifax where there were older trees, large
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trees, the pavement was just jackknifed because the trees and the roots had
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come up. The wind was so high. The city
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shut down for like three weeks. And that was
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devastating to the people in the city, to the city itself,
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and it was a standstill. With
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Hurricane Helene and Hurricane Milton coming through, There
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was a lot of damage just because it was two hurricanes, one a Hurricane Category 4 and
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the other one a Category 3 in Milton. So the
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worry was that Helene was so devastating that
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the Category 3, if it was a Category 5 especially, it would just compound the
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problems that was already there. However, it didn't seem to do that. Although
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there was a lot of damage, there were tornadoes in Hurricane Milton,
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a lot of tornadoes. that caused a lot of damage as well. The wind
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caused more damage than what was expected as the flooding to cause,
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which was better than normal, I guess. It's still a lot of damage. It's
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still going to cost a lot. It's still life-changing
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for a lot of people that had to go through it, that live there, that
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may not have insurance or is uninsurable. People
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who lost their homes that live in trailer parks because of
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the tornadoes and the winds. Other places that
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are vulnerable as well to high winds lost
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a lot, lost their livelihoods in terms of their homes and everything. And
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I don't know how they're going to get over that. It's going
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to be a very difficult thing. There are a lot of GoFundMes, there are a lot of ways
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that you can donate. One place I heard people say, be careful
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where you donate. If you can go through reputable
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organizations, that might be better, but just be careful because there are people who
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will commit fraud so you just be careful with that. I
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want to go just to kind of cover that part because when we
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cover episodes like this and we cover these hurricanes, I'm
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going to go into some stuff that I didn't like about some
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of the politics and what was said around these
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and I got some clips that I'm going to show you today around the
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statements around these hurricanes. This is where I
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have the problem, but I want to cover this part where talking
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about some of the damage, talking about the problems that are faced and
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the people that are living through it, the people who couldn't evacuate or even the
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people who evacuated. We're looking at 9 to 10 million people
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trying to evacuate the area. I want to cover that first because I want
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to let people know. It is devastating, it
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is sad, and it's scary, and it's frustrating to
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see people go through this. To see
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people who have nowhere to go and can't evacuate and have to live through
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hurricanes that are very scary. Although some
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people say, hey, I've lived through hurricanes for a long
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time, lived in Florida for 45 years or more. We've
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been through this before. It's going to be okay. It's still a scary prospect
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to live through and not know what's going to happen, what kind of damage is going to
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happen, flooding or anything like that. As was reported, Tampa
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is not built for flooding, which is very surprising being
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in Florida where there are quite a number of hurricanes. It's not
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built for that great of flooding. But
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regardless, it's something that we
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have to make sure that we cover and we got to make sure that
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we talk about some of the reasoning of
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why people are so vulnerable, why we're all vulnerable to hurricanes
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like this, how hurricanes are causing this. and the
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politics around climate change, the politics
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around it rapidly intensified and more
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numerous hurricanes that we're seeing. And this is the frustrating aspect
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of watching people go through this because they don't have a choice.
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You know, we were seeing people on like, they're taking videos, we're
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seeing people, some people are like, no, like our house was built to
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withstand a hurricane, and we're gonna be fine. And we're not leaving because,
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you know, this is a conspiracy. And I'll get into that in a second. But, you
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know, we're gonna be fine. Because you know, why? We're American, we can
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handle this and that. And look, I get, you
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know, wanting to stay. I'm not a guy who likes change. But
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these are scary times. especially these hurricanes that
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are rapidly intensifying, that are coming in later or even sooner
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than normally. Originally, this was predicted to be the
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most devastating hurricane in 100 years
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that Tampa has ever faced, Tampa Bay. So these
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are the problems that we have to face, but then the politics around
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it is the frustrating part. Not
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even just the stuff that is not done to prevent these
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hurricanes from happening in the future, The problems are
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the stuff that said after, because it's a lot of,
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you know, there's an election obviously in the U.S. coming up
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in November, a very important presidential election, a very important election
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for some governors, some senators, for Congress, people
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who are running for Congress. There are, I don't know exactly how it's all
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delved out. You know, if, if who gets voted
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up, I think even some governors are having some races. So there's a lot,
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there's some very important elections coming up. And I wanted to do this
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episode and I wanted to highlight some of the things that are being said
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all in the name of politics, all in the name of these elections.
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And some of them are way, way out there and some of them are okay. Like
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I get what needs to be done. And you would think that
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after storms like these that we've faced and that we watched and
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witnessed and some people went through and, and, you know, life, literally life-changing. There's
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critique to be done, to be said. There are, you
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know, reports to be written. There's things that need to be reviewed and
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need to say, hey, did we do a good job in the
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relief efforts? Did we do a good job in the
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rescue efforts? What's happening with evacuation? How did
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evacuation go this time? How can we improve it
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for the next time? And just sort of adapt to the new changing
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normal that we are seeing with these storms. That
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is normal. That is what I expect to see. Maybe some
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criticism from the other side, like the people who are not in charge
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of government, like the parties that are not, like, so in this case, the Republicans are
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going to critique the Democrats and even some Democrats are gonna be
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like, we could have done better. Maybe, you know, that's something. The
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big thing is right after a storm is to get the relief efforts, to
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get the rescue efforts in as soon as possible. And,
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you know, when Hurricane Helene went through and it devastated so many
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states, it touched so many states, not just Florida, but Georgia,
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I believe it was like Tennessee, and the Carolinas, there
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may have been another state in there that I missed, but those places were
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like Asheville, North Carolina was devastated with flooding and
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not a lot of rescue efforts. It spans so many states and
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so much area that relief efforts had to
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go through. And so there was criticism by the
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right, so the Republicans, on how fast things were, the
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amount of money that people received right away, whether the president and
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or the vice president, who's running for president, were in
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contact with the governors. There was a lot of stuff said and
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a lot of misinformation that was dropped out by
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potentially both sides. And this is where the
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politics frustrates me. You know, it's like, you know,
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you know, former president Trump, who's running for president again,
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is out there talking about how, you know, the
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president, the current president Biden, didn't talk to people
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in Florida, didn't talk, like a lot of stuff was said that didn't actually
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happen. A lot of the governors had to come out and say, hey, you know what? We actually
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heard from President Biden. He actually gave us all the updates. He
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said, if we need anything, let him know. We're here for them. But
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the thing is, that's all said and good. You want the president to
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call the people, make sure that all the resources get there. What was
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not really said a lot, it was said a little bit, But
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there are like rules and regulations that are put into place. There
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are actions that are put into place as soon as a disaster hits. There's
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a reason why there's a there's an entire department FEMA that
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are there for these natural disasters, for the cleanup, for
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the immediate rescue, like to manage all of that. And
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all of those tasks and rules and regulations are done by the department.
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And a lot of the times they're set out by like the lawmakers.
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So Congress and the senators. You know, these are
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bills that are put into place to ensure that these regulations are
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ready and the tasks are ready to be delved out in time
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for that when a natural disaster hits, relief efforts are right
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there. So the amount of money that people receive and
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the amount of effort and the amount of resources that
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are put towards this rescue and
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this relief are there as soon as it happens. You
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know, the president just has to say, put them to place, or it doesn't even have to be the president.
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The president calling the governors to make sure that everything is fine is
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probably normal practice. That's just good ethics. But
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all the other tasks are just like, that's done right away. And even
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probably before the president could say, let's do it, it's probably already in place.
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And when you have people on the other side who are like, well, it's
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not enough, we shouldn't do this, we should do that. That's when you're like, that's
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great to be like, hey, look, we tried this, it didn't work. Or
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maybe the money didn't get there enough. Or maybe like there's, there's a
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there was a $750 that was given to everybody who was like right away. So
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they can buy groceries, they can do whatever, if they can do that. I don't know what
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it's for. But that's essentially what it's for. That
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is already done. But if they talk about like, well, that's not enough money. Well,
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that's what's agreed upon in Congress,
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agreed upon by the lawmakers that put this stuff into place. If
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they have a problem with it, bring it up in government next
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time before these storms hit. Not after. You
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can say this critique is not enough. You can say it's not enough. I get that. But
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then go back and say, hey, you know what? We have to understand that
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storms are changing. They're getting more intensified. Climate change
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is real. You don't even have to admit that. Just be like, hey, $750 doesn't
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sound like enough money. Can we up it? And how is
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that going to affect the budget? How is that going to affect the amount of money that's given to
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the people who need rescue efforts? And especially if it
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goes across a number of states, especially if it hits millions and millions of people, what
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is that number? That's not even up to me to decide. That's up for the lawmakers
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and the departments and everything to provide the information so that the decisions can
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be made. But then you have all these critiques, and
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all the one side's trying to do is trying to
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make the other side look bad, the side that's in government. It's just to
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make them look bad. That's all they're trying to do, because they want to get into power in
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this upcoming election. And this is not to say that Republicans are doing this,
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and it's just the Republicans. If everything was switched, if the
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Republicans were to say President Trump was actually president
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this time, And Biden's trying to get in, or Kamala Harris
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is trying to get in, and she's criticizing the same thing. It'll probably happen
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the same way. This is not a matter of Republicans against
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Democrats, or one doing better than the other. This is a
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matter of not politicking when it comes to natural disasters.
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Try to like, hey, what can I do? How can I help? You
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know what I mean? Like, let's look at some camaraderie for Americans,
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some camaraderie for the people of the country. This is not just to
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Americans. This is like if Canada had a natural disaster, like, how can
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we help? There'll be time for criticizing the laws and the way it was
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done after. Where's that camaraderie? You
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know, where is that patriotism that people always talk
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about? right? To help the citizens. Both sides should
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be coming together to doing what they can. And there was that with President Biden and
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some of the governors that were Republican governors. And they came out and they said good things. They said,
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hey, he actually said whatever we need, there's that ability, we
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can have all of that. But there needs to be
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more of that. Because what I saw and what I heard and what made headlines were
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some people that are in Congress, I'm not
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going to name their name, But who said that, you
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know, and put it out there, which is total BS and misinformation at
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its finest. It was basically the
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government, like the government in power, Biden and his administration is
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seeding, cloud seeding the
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storms to make them rapidly intensify so
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that the storm goes over Republican dominated
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states. and affects the voting for the
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future. I wouldn't be surprised if
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the Republicans lose the race, that that is an excuse that is
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given. So imagine this, that the president itself
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and the administration would take the powers that be and
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like the public servants and everything and cloud seed the
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storms to make them intensify more. It's not climate change, it's
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the government controlling the storms. to make sure
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that Republican dominated states are in disarray
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so when the election comes, they cannot vote. Imagine thinking
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that. It's not climate change that people
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have been talking about for the last 50, 60 years. It's
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the fact that the government doesn't want the election to go
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to the Republicans, so they're going to affect Republican states. And
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that was perpetuated over a number of news stations, over
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TikTok, over social media. And here's a clip just
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of somebody who is believing this stuff. Like, this
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is not just me saying this. These are people who are saying this. It's
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like the government controlling hurricanes. Here's that clip. Like
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this is absolutely insane for someone to think that. Not the
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fact that science and scientists around the world are
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saying climate change is bad. And the reason for the rapidly intensifying storms
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is because the ocean is so warm due to the
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climate warming. Right? That's the
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reason it's said by so many people. And
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it got to the point that meteorologists who are out there
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working their butts off to make sure that people have the information
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that they need because the storm is rapidly intensifying. We
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don't know when the evacuation orders are going to come. Hurricane lane
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went from a category one to a category four in like four or five hours.
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And so the big damage there was that people did not know enough to evacuate. Because
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a Category 1, Florida people will probably stay because they've lived through
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a Category 1 before. Category 4, those are pretty intensified winds.
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Are you looking at 100 mile an hour winds to like 165 mile
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an hour winds? That's a big difference. That could cause a lot of damage plus
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the flooding. So these meteorologists are
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working their butts off. Some of them are even getting emotional on
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TV. right?
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And because they can't fathom the fact that these storms are
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going to hurt people. These storms are going to affect people.
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Meteorologists are there to help people prepare for
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the weather. And yes, they're not always right. The
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predictions, models and stuff change. But these, they're
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out there online, you know, doing
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what they can to give people proper information. And what,
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how do people respond? Some people are offering them debt, are
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sending them death threats. Some people are giving them crap
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and harassing them, bullying them online. The
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fact that they're just trying to help people and inform people of the weather that
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is coming and what the preparation is and what to expect. They're
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saying, no, you're lying. You're just somebody for the government trying
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to get us and affect the way we're going to vote in the election. This
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is insane. And it doesn't help that
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people all the way at the top, like the
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Republican candidate, former President Trump, believes that
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sometimes having ocean property
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is good. So the fact that there's sea level rise says
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that, hey, more people are going to have ocean property. Right?
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So anybody who's on a coastline and the ocean and the sea level rises and
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the storm surge come up further and the ocean comes up further means a loss of
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land. Well, that's okay. You'll have more oceanfront property for everybody. That'll
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be good for real estate, which is false. It's actually bad.
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It's so bad. People will lose their property. They
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will lose their homes. And here he is a guy who's
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going to be president potentially. is
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ready to make those decisions and say, hey, you know what? Climate change isn't that bad.
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Even if it is, if there's sea level rise, it's OK. People have
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more oceanfront property. Who's going to
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have more oceanfront property? Who's going to be able
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to afford to live there? And who's going to be able to afford to realize that they
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can't live there and they can't sell their property when sea level rise
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does hit and ocean storm surges hit? and
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they lose their homes. Only the rich are going to be able to like, you know what? It's okay. I
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can afford it. I have four other homes, but the people who don't, the
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people in trailer parks, the people who have homes on the long, the ocean or
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along a river that can only afford one home and
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are only there for one home. Like most of us, if you can't
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sell your house, you can't buy another home somewhere else. Right?
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That's the equity you have in that home. If that home is gone and
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nobody will buy it because it's in water most of the year, or
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one part of the year, the dam's there, no insurance, you have to pay for it every year,
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where are they going to go? They can't go anywhere. But, you
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know, Donald Trump's rich friends can go somewhere. And I'm not
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favoring Republican over Democrat. But
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this is a guy who's running for president, who's having
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a problem, who says, hey, you know what? Sea level rise
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is here. Everybody's going to have more oceanfront property. It
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doesn't make sense. And it's just perpetuating these
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false narratives that, hey, climate change is okay. There's nothing we
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can do about it. We're not going to do anything. The governor of
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Florida has authorized the removal
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of the phrase climate change in
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all of their documents, all of the state government's documents. They
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even said that people can't even say climate change in a work-related, a
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government work-related forum. public meetings,
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they can't say climate change. You're talking to a co worker that's
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part of the state government, you cannot say climate change. You
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cannot mention you can't do studies on climate change. You can do studies on flooding,
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but you can't do studies on climate change. How
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are we supposed to get better? When we have people in power,
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who are doing these things, removing phrases that
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is literally causing their state to flood on a regular basis.
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And they have to spend more money fixing these cities and
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these towns. And then the people who live there
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are devastated, potentially lose their livelihoods, potentially
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lose their homes, are in debt, because
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they can't afford to buy another home, because the insurance isn't going to give
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them any money. Like,
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where's all this money coming from? How are we paying for this? How are
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the taxpayers of the US paying for this? This
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is what happens when you have politicians in place who are not
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doing anything about what is real, what is actually happening.
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How the changes are happening, they see it, they don't
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believe it, and they go against what everybody's saying.
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Just because they say people are overreacting, these scientists aren't real, it's
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not actually agreed upon by 97% of
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scientists, which is BS. Such
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BS. And it's costing people lives, and
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their homes and their livelihoods. You
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know, in capitalism as at its finest, you
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see people trying to fly out to get out because the
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driving is so difficult that flight tickets for
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flights out are getting higher and higher and higher as the storm approaches. So
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normally what would cost you $200 to fly out to a different state, the closest state
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that is not going to be affected. It's like $1,200, $800, $700, $1,200. There's
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people who are showing what the prices would be. They're gouging. That's
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what they're doing. They gouge because they can, because the demand is
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up. That's how capitalism works. It doesn't matter if
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this is an emergency and people are trying to get out, but people who can't afford a ticket
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for them or their families, they
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can't leave. And now they're at risk of,
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you know, being harmed. in a storm that could
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have been a Category 5, even a Category 3, which is still
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scary. And there still could have been a lot more damage than there was.
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It is devastating to watch people go through this. It's scary, but
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it's also frustrating to see the reactions and the lack of
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proper reaction and building of policies that
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will help the people of the US, the people of
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a specific country who is going through climate change
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consequences. But we have a
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chance as a people that's part of Democrat that are part of democratic societies,
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to vote in people who will do something about climate change, who
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vote in people who are not going to believe in these crazy, crazy
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schemes, or conspiracy theories. who
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want to criticize government policies to
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make them better to help the people later, not just to get into
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power, not just to take down a government, but to say,
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let's work together on this and let's help the American people. I
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have more respect for somebody who's not in power as
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part of a party that says, let's work together to make relief
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efforts better after these disasters, because we're going to see more of them. I
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would rather vote for somebody like that, even if I don't believe in
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their party structure, because they're willing to work with the
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government to make it better, than somebody to come up with some crazy
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conspiracy theory and pass it out
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and make sure that misinformation is out there to say,
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hey, you know what? Who cares?
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I want to be in power. You suck. You're doing this. You're cloud seeding.
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You're making the Republicans not vote because of this storm. You're
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controlling the weather. You're controlling the weather. This
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is like a scene out of like
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a Mike Myers movie. It's like Dr. Evil. Give
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me a break, people. Like, let's get back down
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to reality. Let's vote for people who want to work with government, whether
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they're in power or not, for the people that they're
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representing. Right? For their country, for
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the betterment of the country, not for the power in getting in. And this is not
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just the US, this is Canada, this is the UK, Australia, India,
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China, everybody. Let's vote for people who
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care more. If you can vote in a country, I know some of those
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countries you can't vote for the people, vote for
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somebody who will do something. Right? That's,
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that's my, that's the call to action. Vote for somebody that
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will actually work with government, whether in power or not, to
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help the people. That's the goal. That's
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what politicians should be doing. And what I'm seeing right now is
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disgraceful in some of these politicians pulling, like
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just pulling out of thin air, these conspiracy theories to
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try and bring down a government. Unreal. And
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it's literally a disgrace. It's sad. It's not even laughable. It's
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just sad. But that's the call to action. Let's go out. Let's
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do our research. Let's vote. And let's make our politicians
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accountable to helping their people. That's
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it for today's episode. I want to thank you for joining us. I apologize for doing
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the rant, but I feel like this is something that a lot of people are feeling.
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We see this all the time. I don't know if it's like a social media thing. I don't know
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if it's like a lack of education in schools. I'm not sure what's
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happening, but it's really distressful or stressful to
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watch. It really is. But I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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You know, let me know you can comment on the Spotify with
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this video, you can comment on YouTube, just in
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comment on this video below. Or you can reach
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out to me on Instagram at how to protect the ocean. That's
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at how to protect the ocean. Let me know how you feel about this. When you see politicians saying
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these ridiculous things. I'd love to hear your thoughts and how you're going to
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vote in the future when you look at it and how you're holding your politicians
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accountable. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the How to Protect the
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Ocean podcast. I'm your host, Andrew Lewin. Have a great day. We'll talk to you next time,
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It is devastating to watch people go through this. It's scary, but
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You're implying that the government made
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a hurricane stronger to hurt its own
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country, the United States of America? What would
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When, if you, like there's been people out there, if
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they have an Alexa, I don't know if you've heard that, and they've asked, what
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caused Milton? You can go on there now, it's
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already predicted the number of deaths and the amount of, it's already predicted it.
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On a Google, it won't do that. If you ask it about Haleen,
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it'll tell you the government actively used seed clouding.
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Why would a country want to have a hurricane be strong and hit its
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because they want to control certain places. And
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if you're looking at where the hurricane's going, it's a lot
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Global warming, that's the global warming you have to worry about. Not that
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the ocean's gonna rise in 400 years an eighth of an inch, and
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you'll have more seafront property, right, if that happens. I said, is
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that good or bad? I said, isn't that a good thing? If
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I have a little property on the ocean, I have a little bit more property. I have
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And building of policies that will help the
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people of the U.S. who is going through climate change
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consequences. We have a chance as a people that are
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part of democratic societies to vote in people who will do
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something about climate change, who vote in people who are not going to believe in
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these crazy crazy schemes or conspiracy
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theories who want to criticize government policies to
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make them better to help the people later. Not just to get into
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power, not just to take down a government, but to say let's work
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together on this and let's help the American people. I have more
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respect for somebody who's not in power as part of a party
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that says let's work together to make relief efforts better after
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these disasters because we're going to see more more of them than somebody to come up with some
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crazy conspiracy theory and pass it out and make sure that
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misinformation is out there to like say, hey, you know what? Who
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cares? I want to be in power. You suck. You're cloud seeding. You're
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making the Republicans not vote because of this storm. You're
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controlling the weather. You're controlling the weather. This is
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like a scene out of like a Mike Myers movie.
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It's like Dr. Evil. Hey,
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everybody. Welcome back to another exciting episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast,
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the podcast where you find out what's happening with the ocean, how you can speak up
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for the ocean, what you can do to live for a better ocean by taking
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action. On today's episode, we're going to be talking about Hurricane Milton.
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We're also going to be talking about Hurricane Helene. These
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are both hurricanes that have passed through over the past couple of
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weeks through the southern Florida, middle Florida,
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I guess, Gulf States, like the western coast of Florida, and
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have produce a lot of damage right and with
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Milton as it just passed by last night
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as of recording this we were very fortunate that
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there wasn't the damage that happened well that
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we first initially thought initially like a couple days ago even a day ago
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it went from a category three to a category five quite
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rapidly and then before it hit the Tampa
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region, which was bracing and evacuating, it
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went down to a Category 3. It passed over the entire
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state of Florida and then
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went to the other side. By the time it reached the other side, it was a
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Category 1. So there was some flooding in areas, but the damage
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wasn't as bad as it was predicted
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to be, which is a great thing. We got away With
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a lot, let's be honest, you know, as a community, as
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a continent, you know, the US state of Florida,
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they got away with a lot. And
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although unfortunately, people did pass away,
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the last time I heard it was about nine that they're saying
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passed away. The damage and the
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amount of lives that were lost was
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minimized by the evacuation, by the lessened
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storm. But Hurricane 3, I've been through a hurricane
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that was a Category 3. That is scary. It
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is extremely scary to live through. I remember
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I went through Hurricane Juan in Halifax when
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I was living there with my now wife. We were
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okay because there weren't a lot of big trees where it was, but in downtown
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Halifax where there were older trees, large
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trees, the pavement was just jackknifed because the trees and the roots had
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come up. The wind was so high. The city
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shut down for like three weeks. And that was
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devastating to the people in the city, to the city itself,
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and it was a standstill. With
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Hurricane Helene and Hurricane Milton coming through, There
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was a lot of damage just because it was two hurricanes, one a Hurricane Category 4 and
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the other one a Category 3 in Milton. So the
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worry was that Helene was so devastating that
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the Category 3, if it was a Category 5 especially, it would just compound the
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problems that was already there. However, it didn't seem to do that. Although
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there was a lot of damage, there were tornadoes in Hurricane Milton,
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a lot of tornadoes. that caused a lot of damage as well. The wind
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caused more damage than what was expected as the flooding to cause,
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which was better than normal, I guess. It's still a lot of damage. It's
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still going to cost a lot. It's still life-changing
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for a lot of people that had to go through it, that live there, that
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may not have insurance or is uninsurable. People
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who lost their homes that live in trailer parks because of
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the tornadoes and the winds. Other places that
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are vulnerable as well to high winds lost
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a lot, lost their livelihoods in terms of their homes and everything. And
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I don't know how they're going to get over that. It's going
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to be a very difficult thing. There are a lot of GoFundMes, there are a lot of ways
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that you can donate. One place I heard people say, be careful
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where you donate. If you can go through reputable
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organizations, that might be better, but just be careful because there are people who
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will commit fraud so you just be careful with that. I
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want to go just to kind of cover that part because when we
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cover episodes like this and we cover these hurricanes, I'm
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going to go into some stuff that I didn't like about some
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of the politics and what was said around these
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and I got some clips that I'm going to show you today around the
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statements around these hurricanes. This is where I
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have the problem, but I want to cover this part where talking
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about some of the damage, talking about the problems that are faced and
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the people that are living through it, the people who couldn't evacuate or even the
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people who evacuated. We're looking at 9 to 10 million people
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trying to evacuate the area. I want to cover that first because I want
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to let people know. It is devastating, it
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is sad, and it's scary, and it's frustrating to
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see people go through this. To see
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people who have nowhere to go and can't evacuate and have to live through
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hurricanes that are very scary. Although some
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people say, hey, I've lived through hurricanes for a long
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time, lived in Florida for 45 years or more. We've
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been through this before. It's going to be okay. It's still a scary prospect
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to live through and not know what's going to happen, what kind of damage is going to
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happen, flooding or anything like that. As was reported, Tampa
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is not built for flooding, which is very surprising being
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in Florida where there are quite a number of hurricanes. It's not
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built for that great of flooding. But
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regardless, it's something that we
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have to make sure that we cover and we got to make sure that
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we talk about some of the reasoning of
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why people are so vulnerable, why we're all vulnerable to hurricanes
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like this, how hurricanes are causing this. and the
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politics around climate change, the politics
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around it rapidly intensified and more
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numerous hurricanes that we're seeing. And this is the frustrating aspect
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of watching people go through this because they don't have a choice.
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You know, we were seeing people on like, they're taking videos, we're
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seeing people, some people are like, no, like our house was built to
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withstand a hurricane, and we're gonna be fine. And we're not leaving because,
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you know, this is a conspiracy. And I'll get into that in a second. But, you
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know, we're gonna be fine. Because you know, why? We're American, we can
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handle this and that. And look, I get, you
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know, wanting to stay. I'm not a guy who likes change. But
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these are scary times. especially these hurricanes that
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are rapidly intensifying, that are coming in later or even sooner
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than normally. Originally, this was predicted to be the
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most devastating hurricane in 100 years
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that Tampa has ever faced, Tampa Bay. So these
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are the problems that we have to face, but then the politics around
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it is the frustrating part. Not
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even just the stuff that is not done to prevent these
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hurricanes from happening in the future, The problems are
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the stuff that said after, because it's a lot of,
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you know, there's an election obviously in the U.S. coming up
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in November, a very important presidential election, a very important election
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for some governors, some senators, for Congress, people
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who are running for Congress. There are, I don't know exactly how it's all
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delved out. You know, if, if who gets voted
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up, I think even some governors are having some races. So there's a lot,
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there's some very important elections coming up. And I wanted to do this
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episode and I wanted to highlight some of the things that are being said
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all in the name of politics, all in the name of these elections.
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And some of them are way, way out there and some of them are okay. Like
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I get what needs to be done. And you would think that
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after storms like these that we've faced and that we watched and
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witnessed and some people went through and, and, you know, life, literally life-changing. There's
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critique to be done, to be said. There are, you
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know, reports to be written. There's things that need to be reviewed and
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need to say, hey, did we do a good job in the
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relief efforts? Did we do a good job in the
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rescue efforts? What's happening with evacuation? How did
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evacuation go this time? How can we improve it
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for the next time? And just sort of adapt to the new changing
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normal that we are seeing with these storms. That
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is normal. That is what I expect to see. Maybe some
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criticism from the other side, like the people who are not in charge
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of government, like the parties that are not, like, so in this case, the Republicans are
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going to critique the Democrats and even some Democrats are gonna be
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like, we could have done better. Maybe, you know, that's something. The
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big thing is right after a storm is to get the relief efforts, to
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get the rescue efforts in as soon as possible. And,
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you know, when Hurricane Helene went through and it devastated so many
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states, it touched so many states, not just Florida, but Georgia,
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I believe it was like Tennessee, and the Carolinas, there
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may have been another state in there that I missed, but those places were
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like Asheville, North Carolina was devastated with flooding and
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not a lot of rescue efforts. It spans so many states and
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so much area that relief efforts had to
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go through. And so there was criticism by the
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right, so the Republicans, on how fast things were, the
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amount of money that people received right away, whether the president and
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or the vice president, who's running for president, were in
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contact with the governors. There was a lot of stuff said and
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a lot of misinformation that was dropped out by
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potentially both sides. And this is where the
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politics frustrates me. You know, it's like, you know,
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you know, former president Trump, who's running for president again,
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is out there talking about how, you know, the
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president, the current president Biden, didn't talk to people
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in Florida, didn't talk, like a lot of stuff was said that didn't actually
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happen. A lot of the governors had to come out and say, hey, you know what? We actually
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heard from President Biden. He actually gave us all the updates. He
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said, if we need anything, let him know. We're here for them. But
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the thing is, that's all said and good. You want the president to
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call the people, make sure that all the resources get there. What was
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not really said a lot, it was said a little bit, But
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there are like rules and regulations that are put into place. There
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are actions that are put into place as soon as a disaster hits. There's
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a reason why there's a there's an entire department FEMA that
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are there for these natural disasters, for the cleanup, for
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the immediate rescue, like to manage all of that. And
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all of those tasks and rules and regulations are done by the department.
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And a lot of the times they're set out by like the lawmakers.
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So Congress and the senators. You know, these are
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bills that are put into place to ensure that these regulations are
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ready and the tasks are ready to be delved out in time
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for that when a natural disaster hits, relief efforts are right
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there. So the amount of money that people receive and
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the amount of effort and the amount of resources that
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are put towards this rescue and
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this relief are there as soon as it happens. You
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know, the president just has to say, put them to place, or it doesn't even have to be the president.
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The president calling the governors to make sure that everything is fine is
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probably normal practice. That's just good ethics. But
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all the other tasks are just like, that's done right away. And even
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probably before the president could say, let's do it, it's probably already in place.
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And when you have people on the other side who are like, well, it's
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not enough, we shouldn't do this, we should do that. That's when you're like, that's
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great to be like, hey, look, we tried this, it didn't work. Or
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maybe the money didn't get there enough. Or maybe like there's, there's a
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there was a $750 that was given to everybody who was like right away. So
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they can buy groceries, they can do whatever, if they can do that. I don't know what
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it's for. But that's essentially what it's for. That
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is already done. But if they talk about like, well, that's not enough money. Well,
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that's what's agreed upon in Congress,
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agreed upon by the lawmakers that put this stuff into place. If
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they have a problem with it, bring it up in government next
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time before these storms hit. Not after. You
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can say this critique is not enough. You can say it's not enough. I get that. But
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then go back and say, hey, you know what? We have to understand that
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storms are changing. They're getting more intensified. Climate change
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is real. You don't even have to admit that. Just be like, hey, $750 doesn't
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sound like enough money. Can we up it? And how is
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that going to affect the budget? How is that going to affect the amount of money that's given to
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the people who need rescue efforts? And especially if it
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goes across a number of states, especially if it hits millions and millions of people, what
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is that number? That's not even up to me to decide. That's up for the lawmakers
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and the departments and everything to provide the information so that the decisions can
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be made. But then you have all these critiques, and
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all the one side's trying to do is trying to
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make the other side look bad, the side that's in government. It's just to
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make them look bad. That's all they're trying to do, because they want to get into power in
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this upcoming election. And this is not to say that Republicans are doing this,
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and it's just the Republicans. If everything was switched, if the
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Republicans were to say President Trump was actually president
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this time, And Biden's trying to get in, or Kamala Harris
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is trying to get in, and she's criticizing the same thing. It'll probably happen
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the same way. This is not a matter of Republicans against
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Democrats, or one doing better than the other. This is a
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matter of not politicking when it comes to natural disasters.
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Try to like, hey, what can I do? How can I help? You
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know what I mean? Like, let's look at some camaraderie for Americans,
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some camaraderie for the people of the country. This is not just to
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Americans. This is like if Canada had a natural disaster, like, how can
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we help? There'll be time for criticizing the laws and the way it was
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done after. Where's that camaraderie? You
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know, where is that patriotism that people always talk
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about? right? To help the citizens. Both sides should
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be coming together to doing what they can. And there was that with President Biden and
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some of the governors that were Republican governors. And they came out and they said good things. They said,
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hey, he actually said whatever we need, there's that ability, we
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can have all of that. But there needs to be
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more of that. Because what I saw and what I heard and what made headlines were
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some people that are in Congress, I'm not
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going to name their name, But who said that, you
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know, and put it out there, which is total BS and misinformation at
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its finest. It was basically the
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government, like the government in power, Biden and his administration is
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seeding, cloud seeding the
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storms to make them rapidly intensify so
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that the storm goes over Republican dominated
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states. and affects the voting for the
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future. I wouldn't be surprised if
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the Republicans lose the race, that that is an excuse that is
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given. So imagine this, that the president itself
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and the administration would take the powers that be and
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like the public servants and everything and cloud seed the
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storms to make them intensify more. It's not climate change, it's
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the government controlling the storms. to make sure
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that Republican dominated states are in disarray
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so when the election comes, they cannot vote. Imagine thinking
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that. It's not climate change that people
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have been talking about for the last 50, 60 years. It's
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the fact that the government doesn't want the election to go
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to the Republicans, so they're going to affect Republican states. And
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that was perpetuated over a number of news stations, over
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TikTok, over social media. And here's a clip just
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of somebody who is believing this stuff. Like, this
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is not just me saying this. These are people who are saying this. It's
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like the government controlling hurricanes. Here's that clip. Like
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this is absolutely insane for someone to think that. Not the
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fact that science and scientists around the world are
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saying climate change is bad. And the reason for the rapidly intensifying storms
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is because the ocean is so warm due to the
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climate warming. Right? That's the
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reason it's said by so many people. And
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it got to the point that meteorologists who are out there
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working their butts off to make sure that people have the information
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that they need because the storm is rapidly intensifying. We
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don't know when the evacuation orders are going to come. Hurricane lane
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went from a category one to a category four in like four or five hours.
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And so the big damage there was that people did not know enough to evacuate. Because
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a Category 1, Florida people will probably stay because they've lived through
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a Category 1 before. Category 4, those are pretty intensified winds.
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Are you looking at 100 mile an hour winds to like 165 mile
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an hour winds? That's a big difference. That could cause a lot of damage plus
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the flooding. So these meteorologists are
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working their butts off. Some of them are even getting emotional on
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TV. right?
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And because they can't fathom the fact that these storms are
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going to hurt people. These storms are going to affect people.
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Meteorologists are there to help people prepare for
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the weather. And yes, they're not always right. The
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predictions, models and stuff change. But these, they're
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out there online, you know, doing
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what they can to give people proper information. And what,
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how do people respond? Some people are offering them debt, are
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sending them death threats. Some people are giving them crap
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and harassing them, bullying them online. The
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fact that they're just trying to help people and inform people of the weather that
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is coming and what the preparation is and what to expect. They're
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saying, no, you're lying. You're just somebody for the government trying
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to get us and affect the way we're going to vote in the election. This
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is insane. And it doesn't help that
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people all the way at the top, like the
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Republican candidate, former President Trump, believes that
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sometimes having ocean property
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is good. So the fact that there's sea level rise says
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that, hey, more people are going to have ocean property. Right?
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So anybody who's on a coastline and the ocean and the sea level rises and
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the storm surge come up further and the ocean comes up further means a loss of
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land. Well, that's okay. You'll have more oceanfront property for everybody. That'll
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be good for real estate, which is false. It's actually bad.
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It's so bad. People will lose their property. They
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will lose their homes. And here he is a guy who's
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going to be president potentially. is
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ready to make those decisions and say, hey, you know what? Climate change isn't that bad.
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Even if it is, if there's sea level rise, it's OK. People have
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more oceanfront property. Who's going to
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have more oceanfront property? Who's going to be able
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to afford to live there? And who's going to be able to afford to realize that they
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can't live there and they can't sell their property when sea level rise
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does hit and ocean storm surges hit? and
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they lose their homes. Only the rich are going to be able to like, you know what? It's okay. I
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can afford it. I have four other homes, but the people who don't, the
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people in trailer parks, the people who have homes on the long, the ocean or
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along a river that can only afford one home and
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are only there for one home. Like most of us, if you can't
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sell your house, you can't buy another home somewhere else. Right?
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That's the equity you have in that home. If that home is gone and
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nobody will buy it because it's in water most of the year, or
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one part of the year, the dam's there, no insurance, you have to pay for it every year,
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where are they going to go? They can't go anywhere. But, you
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know, Donald Trump's rich friends can go somewhere. And I'm not
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favoring Republican over Democrat. But
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this is a guy who's running for president, who's having
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a problem, who says, hey, you know what? Sea level rise
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is here. Everybody's going to have more oceanfront property. It
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doesn't make sense. And it's just perpetuating these
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false narratives that, hey, climate change is okay. There's nothing we
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can do about it. We're not going to do anything. The governor of
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Florida has authorized the removal
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of the phrase climate change in
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all of their documents, all of the state government's documents. They
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even said that people can't even say climate change in a work-related, a
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government work-related forum. public meetings,
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they can't say climate change. You're talking to a co worker that's
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part of the state government, you cannot say climate change. You
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cannot mention you can't do studies on climate change. You can do studies on flooding,
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but you can't do studies on climate change. How
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are we supposed to get better? When we have people in power,
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who are doing these things, removing phrases that
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is literally causing their state to flood on a regular basis.
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And they have to spend more money fixing these cities and
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these towns. And then the people who live there
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are devastated, potentially lose their livelihoods, potentially
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lose their homes, are in debt, because
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they can't afford to buy another home, because the insurance isn't going to give
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them any money. Like,
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where's all this money coming from? How are we paying for this? How are
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the taxpayers of the US paying for this? This
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is what happens when you have politicians in place who are not
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doing anything about what is real, what is actually happening.
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How the changes are happening, they see it, they don't
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believe it, and they go against what everybody's saying.
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Just because they say people are overreacting, these scientists aren't real, it's
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not actually agreed upon by 97% of
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scientists, which is BS. Such
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BS. And it's costing people lives, and
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their homes and their livelihoods. You
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know, in capitalism as at its finest, you
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see people trying to fly out to get out because the
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driving is so difficult that flight tickets for
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flights out are getting higher and higher and higher as the storm approaches. So
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normally what would cost you $200 to fly out to a different state, the closest state
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that is not going to be affected. It's like $1,200, $800, $700, $1,200. There's
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people who are showing what the prices would be. They're gouging. That's
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what they're doing. They gouge because they can, because the demand is
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up. That's how capitalism works. It doesn't matter if
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this is an emergency and people are trying to get out, but people who can't afford a ticket
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for them or their families, they
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can't leave. And now they're at risk of,
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you know, being harmed. in a storm that could
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have been a Category 5, even a Category 3, which is still
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scary. And there still could have been a lot more damage than there was.
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It is devastating to watch people go through this. It's scary, but
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it's also frustrating to see the reactions and the lack of
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proper reaction and building of policies that
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will help the people of the US, the people of
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a specific country who is going through climate change
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consequences. But we have a
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chance as a people that's part of Democrat that are part of democratic societies,
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to vote in people who will do something about climate change, who
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vote in people who are not going to believe in these crazy, crazy
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schemes, or conspiracy theories. who
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want to criticize government policies to
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make them better to help the people later, not just to get into
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power, not just to take down a government, but to say,
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let's work together on this and let's help the American people. I
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have more respect for somebody who's not in power as
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part of a party that says, let's work together to make relief
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efforts better after these disasters, because we're going to see more of them. I
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would rather vote for somebody like that, even if I don't believe in
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their party structure, because they're willing to work with the
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government to make it better, than somebody to come up with some crazy
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conspiracy theory and pass it out
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and make sure that misinformation is out there to say,
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hey, you know what? Who cares?
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I want to be in power. You suck. You're doing this. You're cloud seeding.
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You're making the Republicans not vote because of this storm. You're
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controlling the weather. You're controlling the weather. This
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is like a scene out of like
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a Mike Myers movie. It's like Dr. Evil. Give
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me a break, people. Like, let's get back down
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to reality. Let's vote for people who want to work with government, whether
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they're in power or not, for the people that they're
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representing. Right? For their country, for
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the betterment of the country, not for the power in getting in. And this is not
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just the US, this is Canada, this is the UK, Australia, India,
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China, everybody. Let's vote for people who
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care more. If you can vote in a country, I know some of those
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countries you can't vote for the people, vote for
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somebody who will do something. Right? That's,
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that's my, that's the call to action. Vote for somebody that
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will actually work with government, whether in power or not, to
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help the people. That's the goal. That's
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what politicians should be doing. And what I'm seeing right now is
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disgraceful in some of these politicians pulling, like
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just pulling out of thin air, these conspiracy theories to
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try and bring down a government. Unreal. And
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it's literally a disgrace. It's sad. It's not even laughable. It's
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just sad. But that's the call to action. Let's go out. Let's
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do our research. Let's vote. And let's make our politicians
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accountable to helping their people. That's
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it for today's episode. I want to thank you for joining us. I apologize for doing
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the rant, but I feel like this is something that a lot of people are feeling.
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We see this all the time. I don't know if it's like a social media thing. I don't know
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if it's like a lack of education in schools. I'm not sure what's
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happening, but it's really distressful or stressful to
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watch. It really is. But I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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You know, let me know you can comment on the Spotify with
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this video, you can comment on YouTube, just in
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comment on this video below. Or you can reach
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out to me on Instagram at how to protect the ocean. That's
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at how to protect the ocean. Let me know how you feel about this. When you see politicians saying
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these ridiculous things. I'd love to hear your thoughts and how you're going to
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vote in the future when you look at it and how you're holding your politicians
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accountable. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the How to Protect the
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Ocean podcast. I'm your host, Andrew Lewin. Have a great day. We'll talk to you next time,
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